Guest Post: i dun unerstan u lah!: An exposé of Singapore and Singaporean retardation

Singapore FlagI greatly enjoyed reading the Single Dude’s articles on the pros and cons of Singapore. As a European business person I would like to expand a bit on the “Singaporean retardation” described in the cons article. When I arrived in Singapore I was absolutely shocked at the almost unimaginable retardation of the local Singaporeans. Given that Singapore is one of the wealthiest countries in the world and apparently has the highest number of millionaires per capita, I was expecting to find a mecca of high technology and efficiency but I was sorely disappointed. It’s true the center of the city is full of modern looking buildings and is very clean but aside from that Singapore has much more in common with “third world” countries than it does with it’s very  “first world” image.

Let me preface the anecdotes I’m about to tell by stating that the situations I’m about to describe are very much “business as usual” in Singapore and not extraordinary in any way shape or form. These are daily occurrences, not once in a month or once in a year occurrences. Also, please remember that Singapore claims to be an English speaking country, but as you will soon find out, that is a very unsubstantiated claim.

Singaporean Golddiggerism

An advertisement at a shopping mall that really exemplifies the gold diggerism of the culture

The first thing I would like to discuss is the experience of trying to hire a Singaporean. On one particular day last year I invited seven people to an interview. These were people that had all previously applied for the job online through a local jobs website similar to I gave them all more than 48 hours advance notice.  Of the seven: four did not respond at all, one wrote back and said they didn’t like the neighborhood (it’s centrally located serviced by 10 bus routes and one metro line), one didn’t like the time slot I offered and one confirmed by telephone. The one person who confirmed the interview did not show up and did not call or email to cancel. Please remember these are people that are supposedly looking for employment and applied for the job, not people I identified via a CV search and cold called. I can’t imagine not going to a job interview for a job that I applied for! And as I said this is not abnormal, these are very typical examples of what it’s like trying to hire a local in Singapore.

Local workers are often of much lower quality than foreign workers, and to add insult to injury they also cost much more. Businesses are forced to pay into superannuation funds (Central Provident Fund or “CPF”) for locals but not for foreigners; at the lower end of the spectrum this can make locals upwards of 50% more expensive to hire (these CPF contributions are currently capped for salaries of $5,000 and above). To pay a local around $2200 net costs me about $3000. To pay a foreigner $2200 net costs $2200 plus a much smaller than CPF “foreign worker levy“. I can easily find foreigners to pay $2200 net that are well worth $2200. Locals available for that price range are not even worth $1000 to me in most cases, in fact I have seriously considered hiring some local maids at the lowest possible salary to sit around and do nothing so that I can hire more foreign workers.  You see, to make matters even worse there is currently a government quota of 3 locals per foreign employee on an S-Pass (the employment pass for mid to low level employees).

Toilet Training for Adults in Singapore

Toilet training for adults

The Singaporean government has now decided that companies aren’t hiring enough Singaporeans, particularly in middle management (gee I wonder why!?!) so in their infinite wisdom they have decided to severely restrict employment passes for those making salaries below <$4,500 and to somewhat limit passes for those making between 4,500 to 8,000. Only those making above 8,000 can get an employment pass relatively easily and sooner or later that will probably become much harder too.

So the government economically incentivized companies to hire foreigners for years, and now that foreigners have become close to 40% of the population they want to stop this practice dead in its tracks and force people hire locals. Here’s the problem, besides the economic incentives, as described above, locals often aren’t employable. A Singaporean that costs me $3,000 out of pocket is not even remotely as good an employee as a foreigner I can easily find that is wiling to work for $1,500. My solution? No more jobs in Singapore – I’ll setup a shared service center in another country. Problem solved. It’s the same position Obama has put American businessmen with his retarded healthcare law, and that Hollande has put business owners in in France. “Oh you want further raise my costs for these already uncompetitive workers? No problem, I’ll just hire workers in other countries and/or replace them completely with automation.”

The one exception to all of this is the lowly “Work Permit”, these are not that hard to obtain because this is how they import people from impoverished countries to be maids, nannies and other forms of workers to do jobs that Singaporeans would consider themselves to be above no matter how desperate they were for work.  These are also the passes they issue to the construction workers who work for a pittance often live in squalor in the unfinished buildings they are working on our elsewhere on the job site in things that resemble shipping containers.  While perhaps this is not an example of local stupidity, it does indicate that Singaporeans have no qualms about taking advantage of impoverished and desperate foreign workers.

Before moving on, I would like to share with you some actual, verbatim communications I’ve had with job applicants. Only the names have been changed, to protect the guilty of course. Both of these communications came from applicants claiming to have college degrees and were requesting salaries of $2,800 or more per month. I could show you literally hundreds of communications just like these but I think that would be overkill.

Via e-mail:

From: Iris
Date: October 2, 2012>

i will going to ur interview monday .. but wat is the until num ..

From: Company Confidential
Date: October 1, 2012

Dear Iris,

We are pleased to invite you for an interview as follows:

Date and Time: 8/10/12 5:00 PM
Venue: xxxxx
Tel#: 0000 0000

Please reply to confirm with us.

Yours sincerely,

Hue Jazz


Applicant: Hi I’m james suppose to come interview later .. cn ii check with u ur add is xxx orchard rd .. is it full add? No unit lah? N wat yr companie nam iS.. ? xxx orchard rd is very big lah!

Me: The full address is xxx Orchard Road.

Applicant: Den wat companie nam?

Me: Don’t bother, the job requires fluent English.

[Author’s note on the employment pass situation: If you do need to get a work permit for yourself or someone you want to employ, beware of the local scam artists that try to charge $750-$1,500+ to file an application for a Work Permit, S-Pass or Employment Pass (EP) – they are ripping you off.  Anybody that is even remotely competent can file an application in less than 30 minutes for a $20 fee either online or at any post office.  These scam artists try to trick you into thinking that they are offering some added value or that your chances will be better if they fill out the simple application for you – don’t be fooled, you are perfectly capable of submitting your own applications for yourself or your prospective employees and appealing the decision if necessary!]

I talk a lot about the stupidity of Singaporeans because its so severe and so obvious, but to add insult to injury I think there is a significant component of laziness too. I believe one of the most prominent causes of this is the Singaporean government because Singaporeans are really coddled and taken care of by their government. It’s true that Singapore is really expensive but the things that are expensive other than housing are luxuries (booze, cars, designer crap). Almost everything else is pretty cheap. If you’re a Singaporean, the government gives you subsidized housing with payments on a sliding scale according to your income. If you’re a citizen you can easily get by on less than $1,000 SGD per month without struggling for your basic necessities because the housing is so heavily subsidized. On the other hand, a foreigner in a menial job will make far less money for the reasons described above but faces a much higher cost profile because they do not get access to subsidized housing. In fact many of the retarded locals own these ghetto government projects known as HDBs and lease these shit holes to foreigners for absurd prices as a way to make income for little to no effort. Which brings me to another point: a huge portion of Singapore’s wealthy citizens are just “right place right time” real estate millionaires rather than some kind of entrepreneurial geniuses, a situation which is exacerbated by the fact that the government only allows citizens to buy the best of the best properties which is jut another subsidy that allows them to be both lazy and stupid while still reaping huge rewards. And if you think the rent is high here you should see the purchase prices – 40 to 50 years of rent is not uncommon to purchase a condo. Did someone say real estate bubble?

Here is a very incomplete list of other examples of “Singaporean retardation” that I’ve observed frequently all over town:

  • Toilet training signs for adults all over the city
  • They actually employ people in the metro stations whose job is to tell people to move away from the escalator when they get to the bottom
  • I frequently encounter middle aged people (35-50 years old) that cannot use a computer even for the simplest tasks
  • Banking (see below)
  • Extremely poor language skills – I find much higher levels of English in countries where English is not claimed to be a native or official language
  • Unreliable and poorly functioning technology of all types (see below)
  • Taxi drivers that don’t know where they’re going even on this tiny island
  • Inability to manage the supply of taxis – they are either under-priced, under-supplied or both
  • The emotionless, robot like behavior of the people and they way they chase meaningless, superficial, shiny trinkets (designer crap, overpriced status symbol cars, super overpriced bottles of booze, etc.)
  • Government subsidized HDB housing parking lots frequently full of $100,000+ cars (Why are these idiots subsidizing the housing of people that can afford to waste $100K+ for a car they don’t need!?!)
  • Ridiculous overuse of snail mail
  • A complete inability to do almost anything quickly, efficiently and accurately (see below)
  • The very very few things they get semi right are typically way over done (online banking security is a good example)
  • Anti-Chinese sentiment (see below)
  • “Singlish” is not a language, it’s very, very broken English that is totally incomprehensible
  • Horrendous service – From five star hotels to cheap restaurants some of the worst service I’ve ever experienced, incredible given the price of drinks
  • Outrage of modesty – they try to make this “crime” sound like an equivalent of rape or sexual molestation but you can be charged with it for simply verbally offending a Singaporean woman or brushing up against her the “wrong way” in a club (there are scam artists that try to entrap you too)
Toilet Training for Grownups in Singapore

Toilet Instructions

Now let’s talk about the banking. Given all the wealth here you’d expect them to have a really modern banking system, unfortunately you’d also be terribly wrong. Singapore has by far the worst, most retarded banking system I’ve ever had the displeasure of dealing with. It took my bank, one of the larger ones in town, seven working days to receive a wire from abroad. It took me three weeks to setup online banking. Setting up online banking required: filling out an online banking request form (in person at the bank), waiting for two separate pieces of mail (one which had to be signed for), sending back a signed original activation confirmation form by postal mail and then completing a lengthy online activation process which requires both a security token device and a local mobile phone number to receive additional SMS one time passwords (that’s right I needed a security token and one time passwords sent to my mobile!). The written instructions that were mailed to me explaining how to complete the final steps of the online banking activation process were blatantly wrong. After the whole thing was done and I received numerous confirmation emails and SMS from the bank letting me know I successfully setup online banking followed by a regular paper letter in the mail saying “This letter is to confirm you have successfully set up online banking” – there’s that overkill I was talking bout. Bank statements are only available online for three months, if they are older than that I have to make a request, pay a substantial per statement fee and wait a couple of days for them to get them to get those “old” statements out of the “archives”. It takes one to two business days to transfer money from one Singaporean bank to another. I could go on and on but I think this gives you a good overview of what Singaporean banking is like. If that’s not enough for you check out the bank code branch code clusterfuck, especially with UOB. Why they couldn’t just copy their more competent counterparts in the rest of the world and implement the SWIFT code scheme, or better yet IBAN is beyond me.

Singapore Convicts

Not sure what this is but it appears to be a government sponsored sign encouraging you and your children to interact with recently released prisoners!

Wherever technology is used, it’s used in completely idiotic, backwards ways and it’s poorly implemented. For example, Singapore has automated SMS, telephone and mobile app taxi booking services. Sounds high tech right? Wrong. If you try to book a taxi when one isn’t available at the exact moment you try to book it you will get an automated response that says “Sorry no taxi’s available now please try again later”. It was apparently completely lost on whoever built this system that all this wonderful technology could easily be used to queue the requests and then send a taxi whenever one becomes available which is what most people who would use such a service would actually want! Unfortunately they don’t’ do that, they just send an automated message “try again in 10 minutes”. Even more ridiculous is when ordering with operator assisted booking, you may wait on hold for 10 or 20 minutes if it’s a busy evening or holiday, the operator will then finally take your booking, but after you hang up you will often receive an SMS “sorry no taxis available, try again later”. Another example are Singaporean government websites that literally close outside of working hours.  A website that closes?  WTF?!?  My IT guy says that it’s actually more work to design a website that “closes” than to just allow it to function normally. We’re not even talking about submitting anything here, just checking a status!

Singaporean Government Website Closes Outside of Business Hours

You cannot check employment pass status online if the physical office is closed

I won’t get too deeply into the geeky stuff but suffice it to say that Singapore’s network interconnects with the outside world are so bad that all our critical business servers that serve Singapore must be located within Singapore. For the real geeks out there checkout how many hops it takes to go nowhere even still inside Singapore or just over the border as well as the tremendous jump in latency you get when trying to communicate with a network outside Singapore as opposed to inside Singapore even though “outside Singapore” is as little as 30 km away. There is plenty of fiber in Singapore so it shouldn’t’ be a bandwidth problem – probably just a completely retarded network topology coupled with some really shitty, outdated Chinese routers. The 3G is shitty, slow and unreliable also.

Common Sense

Common sense advice from the government regarding things you would expect everyone to know

The general incompetence and inefficiency is best observed in the slow, round about, error prone, low tech way in which virtually all business related tasks are accomplished: namely with long tedious forms requiring signatures (often originals), business registration numbers, ID card copies and company stamps. I know that this is a normal bureaucratic hassle associated with doing business in many countries for the initial setup of everything from a corporation to a telephone line but it doesn’t end with the setup in Singapore, far from it. The simplest tasks like adding a $20 per month value-added service to your telephone line require multi-page, paper forms, ID copies, signatures, stamps and then several working days “processing time”. More often than not they will get the requested changes wrong and require more forms from you and “more processing time” just to fix the changes they incompetently fucked up in the first place.  You’ll be lucky if whatever they fuck up doesn’t disrupt your business for a couple of days.  Once I requested a change of address on my credit card terminals; they spelled the new address wrong and broke our service entirely for three business days just because I asked them to change the address on the receipt.  Another good example is trying to signup for QuickBooks Online. Pretty much anywhere else in the world if you have a credit card and five minutes on your hands you can get signed up. Not in Singapore, in Singapore you must be a Singtel customer and you must have QuickBooks Online billed to your Singtel paper bill – you cannot pay via credit card at all. Kind of defeats the purpose of that whole “online convenience” thing doesn’t it? That’s not all, if you are not a Singtel customer you must become one first via a slew of other forms, signatures and copies of official documents about your business to get a “Singtel billing account” and only than can you sign up for QuickBooks Online only to be billed via a paper bill you will receive in the mail. It’s almost mind boggling how anyone could be so inept and incompetent at utilizing and implementing the basic technologies of our time and it is comical for anyone that doesn’t have to deal with it on a daily basis.

The periodic anti-Chinese backlash is something that I find to be a never-ending source of entertainment. From time to time the locals get all riled up about having too many foreigners in Singapore “stealing their jobs” and frequently they single out the Chinese for abuse. I find it to be incredibly funny when they choose all those “Chinese foreigners” to pick on because the vast majority of the resident population of this less than a generation old joke of a “country” is in fact Chinese, they are nearly 75% of the population!

Moving right along you can’t discuss Singapore without discussing the complete lack of anything that resembles a developed country in the behavior and the culture of the average person on the street. Those toilet training signs are probably very necessary. I’ve seen some horrific things in public rest rooms in Singapore, even in very upscale shopping and restaurant complexes.

Handicapped bathroom upstairs in Singapore

Handicapped bathroom upstairs

Other joys of Singapore are the public spitting and watching people blow snot rockets into the sinks in the rest rooms (that was a favorite of mine in my old office building). The behavior, the mentality, the culture is uncivilized and very third world. Sure there is an upper class like everywhere, but I’m talking about your regular, every day, average Singaporeans. Bad manners, no class, bad language skills, frequently lacking basic hygiene, lacking basic common sense, you name it. It very much feels like they just bused in a bunch of people from an uncivilized third world country and turned them loose in a big city.

I can’t help but wonder if some of this is caused by inbreeding. Citizens only make up a little over 60% of the population on this tiny island, which is currently equal to about 3.2 million people. But of that 3.2 million there are a lot of different ethnic groups that all stick together and mix very little, you have the Chinese and their Chinatown, Indians in Little India, Malays, Indonesians and others. By the time you break it down some of the individual communities are very small. The different groups hardly mix or integrate and all stick to their own little areas for the most part. And of course most muslims (of which there are plenty) will typically never be caught mixing with non-muslims. I’m really just speculating here but I really can’t help but wonder.  Besides the general lack of intelligence there certainly seems to be indicators of bad genes in many of the native populace such as bad skin, bad teeth and a huge prevalence of glasses and contacts (more than I can ever remember seeing elsewhere).

Toilet Training for Adults in Singapore

More toilet training for adults

Although the city does have it’s ultra modern center with high rise office buildings, you haven’t really seen Singapore unless you’ve seen all of it.  Besides the city center there are also disgusting, decrepit ghettos full of the aforementioned subsidized housing, broken down shop houses infested with roaches and rats, hourly rate hotels, cheap seedy restaurants that smell of rotting food, prostitutes galore and more.  The best example of one of these districts is definitely Geylang.  And don’t forget the infamous, “Four Floors of Whores“, that one is in the high rent district along with many other KTV bars which you can find any part of the city, high rent or not!  The Marina Bay Sands and One Raffles Place are not accurate representations of Singapore as a whole by any stretch of the imagination.

This article is getting awfully long and I could go on for pages more but I think you get the point by now. For the reasons outlined above and many more, I’m hereby terming Singapore the dumbest country per dollar of per capita income in a the world. Sure there may be some countries with a more retarded population than Singapore, but I don’t think it’s fair to compare places that are so poor they may be struggling with being able to obtain basic nutrition to the country that boasts the highest number of millionaires per capita. Outside of Wall Street and parts of the Middle East, you would be hard pressed to find more unearned and undeserved wealth than you will find in the hands of retarded Singaporeans.

Manuel adds

As predicted this article is starting a shit storm and we love it. Haters are a blog’s best friends. So far these are the place the article above has been linked. If you know of another one please let us know in the comments.

The Temasek Review
TR Emeritus
The Real Singapore
Singapore Expats Forum
My [Overpriced] Car Forum
Channel News Asia Forum
Asia One Forums

The comments being generated both there and here are predictably hilarious and we’ve archived them here.

Lastly found this cool article on “The Real Singapore” and linked it inline above where I felt it was appropriate.

Prostitution, Gambling and Bad Karaoke: The Real Singapore

Satire piece stating the same basic thing (although less vulgar and with less supporting details) where many of the people commenting don’t even realize it’s satire! Pretty funny.

Singaporeans biggest threat to Singapore’s growth

Classic, love or hate, nothing in the middle:

Love Hate

Favorite comments:

March 28, 2013 at 6:44 pm (Quote)
my sympathy to a sore loser who is moving on after so many donkey years of enriching his innards only to realised that my countrymen r retards! by saying so u r only putting up an excuse n consoling urself to the fact that ur pre-historic business models r outdated.
1) cant compete with those of newer FTs who have better ideas than urs. 2) cant compete with younger men at clarke quay.
3) with increased competitions ur business not as profitable.
4) cant take the heat, lose out to a bangla hunk n u will b leaving s’pore without ur partner
u had ur fill so b content.just go quietly. go to virgin territories n continue ur exploitations. make sure u dont end up in CDC of your next target

And nothing speaks louder than this one. You are a foreign investor that wants to start a business in Singapore and employ Singaporeans? Don’t bother, they think you are a blood sucking parasitic beggar.

March 28, 2013 at 7:55 pm (Quote)

ONE of a kind after sucking our blood and living of our nation he is talking COCK real ungrateful ARSE-HOLE.He is just a beggar after begging us for food to fill his hunger he is now bitting us.Please go and beg somewhere if you still remain in Singapore after next week you are just what i called a ARSE-HOLE BEGGAR.FUCK OFF and go beg somewhere you are just not welcome SICK PIG.

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  • Simon in Hong Kong

    Having lived and worked in SE Asia for the last 2 years, I can safely say that Singapore is my least favorite country of those I work across and travel within.

    I can attest to much of the retardation referenced in this article, and will add that the level of arrogance you will encounter is completely unfounded. Singaporeans like to think of themselves as ‘not Asian’ in many ways, looking down upon other countries in the region and kidding themselves they are every bit as good as the western countries they so desperately wish they were.

    Unfortunately I have to go back soon, I am looking forward to it even less than my trips to India and THAT is really saying something.

    • Manuel

      Wow, that is saying something!

  • Andre Flaco

    I traveled the world, I’m 26 years old I’m basically traveling non stop from age 21. Singapore is the absolutely shittiest placeIi have ever step in. I was suppose to be there 2 months for work, I have canceled my contract after 3 weeks, i had to get out of there .. Absolutely everything is true in this article. WORST SHITHOLE IN THE WORLD!

  • Go Back

    To Hell, demon beasts, from whence you came

  • Teuksora

    you guys should take a look at this, retardation at its best!

    Still Avail?? Hello? – Carousell. Singapore’s #1 breeding ground for inarticulate cheapos.

  • Rob in SE Asia

    True story illustrating how incredibly stupid Singaporeans are from today: A friend of mine is doing a lot of business in Singapore and he’s banking with DBS which is one of the largest banks in Singapore. Apparently they upgraded their online banking. My friend received no notice of this and when logging he was automatically directed to the new system. He couldn’t figure out how to generate his reports on automated collections (GIRO transactions) because everything had changed. He called up the bank and asked WTF? The bank said, sorry in the new system none of your GIRO collection data was or will be transferred. So in other words all of the customers he has setup automatic deductions for he has to setup all over again from scratch. Only in Singapore. The most annoying thing is that they don’t seem to realize at all how stupid they are compared to the rest of the world and how badly they do virtually everything. Nothing is even remotely first world once you get past the surface layer.

    • Teuksora

      yea, banking here is crap. they sent customers new chip ATM cards through snail mail and i didnt receive mine. called the bank and they told me they had a message on their system stating “customer to update address” but i wasnt informed at all. so they instructed me to update my address via internet banking and to call up again to instruct them to send me the new card. they’re so stupid i have no words for them.

  • butthurt

    Yes we have to learn to be friendlier, civilised and more open. Yes the costs are ridiculous.

    No you do not put down an entire nation of people with such arrogance and poor taste. “turned them loose in a big city” Like third world citizens aren’t human. Almost sounding like a slaver surveying his ship there. Sure, we have a long ways to go, but culture is difficult to engineer or improve without the benefit of time.

    Here’s a suggestion Mike. Try to go about your business without looking down on everyone you meet and you’ll find your time here isn’t so painful. I almost want to believe you made this article so excoriating and provocative to generate ad traffic.

  • Mike Sullivan

    I can totally confirm this article and add that this must be one of the worst countries in the world to live in if you are single (unless you like to spend a lot of money on hookers that is) for the following reasons:

    1) Most of the girls here are ugly, no seriously – they are. You may be in a glamorous area and find a lot of hotties but for the most part finding hot girls in Singapore can be an arduous task. I have been at the tail of some trains and walk all the way to the front when it’s moderately full and not find a single good looking girl to talk to – not even one!

    2) Even if you manage to find a hot girl she is likely to be either uptight, stupid, shallow, boring, up herself or all of the above. I talk to a lot of women when I go to a new country, on the streets, on the mall, on the train and I ALWAYS manage to get numbers or at least strike pleasant conversations, here in Singapore you may as well hit your head on a wall to entertain yourself. You would think some girls here are either retarded or pretending to be by the responses you get to polite questions about simple things like “What’s your favourite restaurant?” Or “Can you recommend a good place to visit in this area?” And most of the time it feels like they are itching to get rid of you as soon as you start talking to them. I have even in a couple of occasions talked to girls that were quite unattractive just out of boredom and even though their body language implies they fancy you, they still cut you off quickly or walk the opposite way to get rid of you, it’s absolutely mental how frustrating it is to meet people (especially girls) in this country. There is no other Asian country that is like this. In Hong Kong, for instance it’s really easy to meet girls (or people in general) and strike friendly conversations or even get dates, here, forget it, you may as well get a boat to Indonesia on the weekends if you work here.

    People sometimes compare this country with Japan in how organised it is, clean and safe but I think that’s a load of shit. Singaporeans do things constantly by the book, they don’t have a vision like Japanese do and they don’t follow rules because of a sense of pride in a job well done, they just do it because they are scared and because of social pressure to make more money and to escalate socially.

    I wont say everyone is like this, As one of the very, very few rare examples, I met a really amazing girl over here, she was possibly one of the most beautiful girls I have ever met in my life and she was also really friendly, polite and clever (shame she was leaving the country the next day to meet her boyfriend in Europe, but I guess the good ones wouldn’t stay here) but for the most part, I can say 49 out of 50 girls you are going to meet here, it’s going to be shit. I even stopped bothering to approach girls and can’t wait to leave this country, such unbelievably boring people. I would have never thought it would like this.

    • Teuksora

      so agree with this. you need to understand that the majority (i’m referring to chinese) hailed from southern china. southern chinese are less beautiful when compared to the northen counterparts where they have really nice fair skin and beautiful features. northern chinese have got flat faces and dark skin. also, girls in singapore dress really sloppily (tank tops and slippers every damn where), many like to dress in black where in other countries they only wear black to funerals or maybe other solemn events. they’re also not articulate and are generally not street smart.

      • Manuel

        I agree that Chinese girls can be incredibly hot. There is also an incredible diversity of looks in China. Short, tall, dark, light, etc.

    • Siti Noor

      Maybe, just maybe, you reek of desperation to get laid … :p

  • Aqeel

    Oh dear! I have no idea how I stumbled upon this article. I just can’t stop laughing. Is this shit even real “LAH”?

  • DanielW

    Brilliant article. Couldn’t agree more with the points raised. I’ve been here five years and I’ve had enough. Time to return to the first world. I hung around for the almost non-existent taxes but now even that can’t keep me here.

  • Pained

    Singapore is a third world country that pretends to be developed. All my friends who are actually raised here know that it is a third world/developing country. Stupid little microstate the size of a pimple on the butt of United States.

  • Pained

    Everything you wrote is 100% accurate.
    If I live here for a few more years, I will die. WILL.

    • Siti Noor

      Here’s a suggestion, leave. Now. Save yourself. Life is precious.

  • Leo tang fuck

    I love your writing. Having to live around a Singaporean is a joke.

  • Demetrios

    I’ve posted here before, but still felt like coming back to vent some steam and hopefully dissuade a few people who are considering moving to Singapore. I’ve already successfully convinced at least one person not to come. It’s now approaching three years that I’ve been here, and I’m waiting (very patiently) for another three years to go by before I can pack up my bags and leave. And it’s no secret that this is what most “people” here would be thrilled to see me do, of course sooner rather than later. At this point, I’m completely fed up with this obnoxious breed and finding it very hard to sympathize with their problems. It’s not enough that they reek of insincerity, lack any empathy, and talk and behave in a completely boorish way without any regard for courtesy, they also have to look down on any anybody that doesn’t act or behave like them. I’ve always been looked upon as an intruder here, and that’s never going to change, but on the plus side, I have it a lot better than others. A Bangladeshi or Chinese labourer working six and a half days a week at a construction site where serious workplace accidents happen every so often, will never be seen as anything other than a heathen and a miscreant in the eyes of many Singaporeans. Then, these people have to go blame their government and foreigners alike for all of their personal problems, which is absurd. Seriously! There are many who’ve had to go through the same strict education system, NS and the stress of growing up here, and never had the priviledge of studying abroad, yet end up perfectly decent, caring, intelligent and articulate individuals. This business of the government and FTs ruining their lives is such a pathetic argument. Then to add insult to injury, you have the National Kindness Movement posting ads everywhere, telling you to be gracious towards others. And then the endless team building activities at work, a huge fad in Singapore, where you’re expected to dress up in a silly uniform or put on a costume, play inane games and pretend like you’re having fun, around a group of people who wouldn’t give a s–t if you dropped dead the next day.

    There have been a recent string of unfortunate incidents that have brought more disharmony between locals and foreigners. But the latest one, which caused an uproar, says a lot. Some idiotic rich expat who went on to lose his job and leave the country was caught on video making disparaging remarks about ‘poor’ Singaporean people who take public transport while he drives a Porsche. Why should anyone even pay attention or acknowledge such stupid comments? Yet somehow they struck a chord with most Singaporeans, some of whom bothered to send this chode death threats. There have been many more hurtful comments voiced by rich expat types. But to people who are so fixated on wealth and see nothing in life beyond attaining affluence and status, a remark about them being ‘poor’ and not owning a car turns out to be the most egregious insult ever. Those wanting to move here should ask whether it’s all worth it…the safety, convenience, efficiency, generous salary and benefits, low taxes and good food, when these are the types of people you will be surrounded by.

    • Joel Long

      I’m not sure from whence these people you mention come from, although I highly suspect it’s the local population on the Internet.

      Demetrios, I don’t know if it’s fair, but there’s plenty of Singaporeans willing to earn their keep just as much as there’s plenty of Singaporeans thinking otherwise, and in the same vein there’s plenty of Singaporeans at the ready to blame Singapore on every bit of their misery.

      Let me show you a magic trick, though. Replace “Singaporean” with any nationality you can think of in Northern or Eastern Europe, and replace the “agenda(s) of the day”. Surprise, you have these combinations:
      …plenty of British people willing to earn their keep just as much as there’s plenty of British people thinking otherwise…
      …plenty of Americans willing to earn their keep just as much as there’s plenty of Americans thinking otherwise…
      …plenty of Spanish/Italian/Germans…

      I am sure by now that you’ve gotten my point. Won’t you agree that we’re always going to have dissidents ready to diss anything that doesn’t satisfy them, and such people exist all over the world? Surely, then, you would agree too that this is more or less a worldwide problem at present, this “feeling of entitlement” and “crisis of identity in the face of globalization”? =)

      • Manuel Pfister

        You need to go back to remedial English class.

        • Joel Long

          Reason being? I’m sure you understood me perfectly fine.

          • david.fields

            Asking that question proves that you should Wong.

  • Joel Long

    I can refute none of your claims, although I don’t really know how it is you see Singapore – on the people level or on the business level.
    I realize anything I say here now is actually kind of adding fuel to the fire you start; I shall be branded as pro-foreigner (cue fake horror face).

    Singapore is not exactly an orderly police state; we’re no North Korea. However, a lot of things we do in the name of progression and peace seems to be more on the “jump the bandwagon” mentality than actually trying to one up and do better.

    Try asking a Singaporean about SingPass, the government on-line service. We use it to deal with the government, and I have to tell you, every time I use it I forget the password. There’s no other fail-safe system, we have to visit a community club and get the people there to change passwords for us; we can’t submit on-line requests to change it and yada. It’s annoying, redundant, outright 1990s WWW with niceties plastered on the outside.

    Documentation? Last I recall, the guy who founded DropBox didn’t need more than a few forms to fill up for setting up a company. Singaporeans? We still need to visit in person, do all sorts of things that really shouldn’t matter but are apparently required… for show. Really.

    Oh, by the way, applying for higher institutions admission in Singapore is also a nightmare, there’s actually a stupid two-step process. First submit all related documents offline (instead of on-line), then verify any successful applications over a web page (so, um, really, what’s the point?)

    On the English-speaking side of matters, it’s mostly personal, but most Singaporeans I encounter in the blogosphere/online seem to like raising an argument in your face… by blathering through everything they say. In fact, I have encountered cases where their (often controversial) arguments completely contradict what they really mean, and it makes for days’ worth of confusion as I try to figure exactly which side of the argument they are really on. Doesn’t help that they write English the way you illustrated it, and really, what they write goes beyond the level of the “its versus it’s” argument; it’s fundamentally broken English.

    I’m a child at heart; I play massively multi-player on-line games lots, and the only reason I feel out of place is because employing perfect grammar often seems to get people to elevate me to god-like status, even though my English is nowhere near perfect. It’s perfectly understandable, that’s really all there is.

    Oh, not to mention the on-line world in Singapore resembles more of Will Smith’s Wild Wild West (than an actual Wild West); it’s taken seriously, but any other observer would just laugh. That’s you right now. *smirk*

    However, that being said… every country has its bad apples, and I’d like to emphasize that a lot of the smarter/wiser people are working outside the country. Problem is, the IT industry here is no good (thanks to the infrastructure) and the same goes for many of the knowledge-based sectors, and so those with more than a two-bit brain would have gone out to Europe, Japan or elsewhere for greener pastures; this is a brain drain nobody is really noticing right now. There’s a reason why the government is actively trying to entice people to go back to Singapore from the outside, and practically nobody budged; who wants to go back to a country where intelligent conversations are often swept aside, or branded politically destabilizing?


    This mollycoddling can’t go on.

    • Joel Long

      I recognize there are some severe run-ons in my statements. Trust me, they can’t tell.

  • Lonnie Chiu Wei

    Been living in Singapore for the past 10 years by way of California. I have to admit, many of the author’s points ring true. Had similar experiences on interviewing, employing and retaining Singaporeans. Also I have many Singaporean friends whom I can’t understand on email or SMS. Now here’s the good news: there are alot of good people who live here be they locals, PRs, “foreign talent”. More good news: it’s probably the safest place I have ever lived in and the education is good (not great, but where can you get great education these days?). Even more good news: most everything works (every lived in NYC? or Manila?).

    With all things being considered, even with the molly coddling, incoherent english, crowded subways, an a gameable system, I enjoy living here and will continue to live here probably till they kick me out.

    • Leaving

      You must be on drugs. Comparing Singapore to NYC is like comparing a rickshaw with a Ferrari.

  • Zhong Han Sin

    I bet you are having fun with the responses but I still have to say this. We do not need arrogant pricks like you in Singapore, no matter how inferior you deem our people. Anti-Chinese? We’re probably more Anti-Pricks.

    • Joel Long

      Problem is he’s not entirely wrong. He wrote it in a provocative manner, but by no means are they factually inaccurate. Maybe, his words were embellished for dramatic purposes, but sometimes you have to make a point across with a blunt hammer instead of trying to sing your way through it.

  • Mike F

    As a Singaporean (born and raised), I find this article wildly amusing and – unfortunately – painfully accurate. However, much of the supposed “third world” behavior is the result of having more than a third of the population being fobs. Most Singaporeans, at least the properly educated ones, are rarely like that. I know it sounds awfully xenophobic, and perhaps even like a poor excuse, but it is what it is.

    Most accurate: Internet connectivity. As an internet professional, this is too true. Although fiber optics adoption is pretty high within the country, trans-pacific connection remains painfully slow. The main hubs in the region, mainly Taiwan and Japan, are just too far away.

    Least accurate: anti-Chinese sentiments portrayed as some sort of hypocrisy. Singaporeans, for the most part, do not identify ourselves based on our ethnicity. This is vastly different to other diverse countries, like the US, where minorities are usually eager to identify themselves by their ethnicity. We are Singaporeans first, chinese/indians/malays/white second. Also, the fact that the chinese is the majority race, means there is pretty much no impetus for us to make a point (like how asians in the west are always eager to portray themselves as “Azn”). It’s a subtle point, but seeing you’ve been around the world as well, it should be something obvious to you as well.

    I do hope that local Singaporeans will behave better though, be proud of their education and strive to be more civilized. 10 years of compulsory education, with English as the first language, and many can’t even produce a proper, legible email. That’s just inexcusable. The YouTube video you posted is only too true, a painful reminder that these people do exist amongst us, even if we don’t often get to see them. While the rich becomes richer (nothing wrong with that), the more disaffected citizens are just wallowing in their “ratchedness”, which is unacceptable. The government is doing what they can to improve and reduce the wealth-gap, and hopefully the situation improves.

    I don’t want to short-change my fellow countrymen/women though. When it comes to culture, everything is contextual, and once a perception’s been made, a lot of the contextual information is lost. I’d love to continue this conversation if anyone’s interested – god knows I’ve had it way too many times. Consider me a new fan to this blog, extremely useful for travelbugs like me!

    • Charlie Bushmeister

      Thanks for your comments, Mike. You seem to be a statistical outlier in your clear thinking and perfect grammar.

      • david.fields

        Unlike most Singaporeans

        • David Idiot

          well no one asked for your opinion did they?? Go back home to your guns and weed Johnny Smith you don’t have enough class to be on the internet

    • David Idiot

      To me , the real truth is that Singapore is a country that is filled with pricks , local and foreigners alike. I won’t say we can blame any particular group, be it locals or foreigners for our lousy culture and ridiculous social stigmas. Even though I am a Singaporean , I got to say that from my observation many foreigners start behaving like pricks when they see idiot Singaporeans doing so and when they see that this being Singapore where it’s safe and no one is going to physically attack them

  • Jasx

    I find it mildly amused at this blog. The author is simply a very impatient, negative, unattractive and down-on-his-luck foreigner, using this blog to write highly provocative articles to generate traffic to this site. One sentence sums it up – he simply cannot adapt to Singapore. My question is: If you are unhappy, just leave the country. Why bother staying on? We have way too many people living on this little island and I am sure your country is bigger than ours. Every single country has their own pros and cons.Guys, please be smart. By writing and responding to this article we are helping him. This shall be my first and last comment. I won’t waste my time on such blogs. There are a million better ones out there.

    • Charlie Bushmeister

      “I find it mildly amused at this blog.”

      The Singaporean public education system strikes again, lah.

  • thebeanstalkmyth

    The comment above is not written by a 16 year old. No one at 16 despite how educated they are use the word cohort. Despite the comment being somewhat well-written (if you consider the author to be 16), it is too simplistic to say that education or the Frederick Kelly-esqued standardize testing type of education is solely to blame.

    It could also be attributed to the fact that: Singapore is a young and developing nation despite the affluence; (and as the blog pointed out) parents are too focused on making money, chasing after meaningless shinny objects instead of taking part of the holistic education of their young. Also, since Singapore is just now seeing its 3rd generation- it is too much to expect them to speak proper English (check out the Americans, or the Brits or other native English speaking nations like Australia, NZ, etc. -a large number of their population can’t speak properly either.) (By the way, they also exhibit major forms of retardation (gun control, health care snafus, invasion of other countries, racism, etc.)

    Anyway some comments on other nations retardation: obesity -retarded & stupid, drug abuse and violence- restarted & stupid, you can go on and on… if you look at Europe and it’s neighbors and the near economic collapse- retarded & stupid.

    If you compare Singapore to these nations you will soon realize how young Spore is… and with age no matter how “wealthy” a county is… teething problems, learning curve, challenges are expected…until maturity. A country’s wealth is not a good enough indication or barometer for how their populace should behave in a certain way that is called “civilized”— in not so distant past, all the mature nations that we now call “educated nations “used to also have population who conquered in the name of religion, killed and pillaged for money, raped and sacrificed people, wore a robe and lynched their own, clubbed each other to death.

    So yeah, it is scary that this county has so much to growing to do, it’s population “near brut behavior” needs improving but at least they’re doing it in their subsidized homes, their 100K ++ automobiles and their not-so-perfect banking and transportation system but at least no one lost their homes from banking fraud, under regulated borrowing system and everyone gets home for a dollar despite of it being faulty… it beats taking a bus in Chicago knowing it may not come at all! Or getting shot at the train station.

    Lastly, on them being on smart phones all the time, not necessarily retarded… yes it is weird, annoying and anti-social… yet again, Singapore is young and most of it’s technology has leap frogged compared to develop nations that saw shifts and changes in technology evolution… it can be explained the way a child is fascinated with a new toy. Lay off on your criticisms of Singapore and instead start by helping this country through educating them as part of these society.

    I am not a Singaporean, I have been here for the last 7 years, my children go to local school and I admit, times I am frustrated but I do my best to teach every “retarded” Singaporean how to properly behave (sound presumptions and egotistical)… but presenting a problem without doing your share to solve it makes me think you are retarded yourself!

    • Ryan

      I am 16 you twat, just one of the more educated ones. But anyway. Why wouldn’t a 16 year old know the word cohort?

  • Colette Lim

    Singapore HDB flats/estates are ghettos? You either:
    1. have very high standards, or
    2. are visually challenged, or
    3. are legally blind, or
    4. you’re under the influence of substance abuse when you’re out and about in Singapore, or
    5. you’re highly delusional, or
    6. you’re out of your mind, or
    7. you’re all of the above

    Singapore employs an army of foreign workers to work as cleaners to keep it clean, so how can our housing estates be ghettos? And even if they were ever “ghettos”, they would be so only for a few hours before these armies of cleaners make everything clean and tidy again. If you want to run down a country and its citizens, please do it credibly, if not, you just come across as a very malicious and vindictive person. And if you have guts, you would have named yourself in this article instead of just being “Anonymous” while deriding and demeaning an entire city state and its citizens.

    No one in their RIGHT mind would ever describe Singapore’s public housing neighborhoods as ghettos especially when a subsidized public housing flat can cost you more than S$500,000 for only 110 sq metres of space. I strongly suggest that you tour the newer estates of Punggol and Sengkang if you’re still in Singapore and eat your heart out because the newer HDB blocks there can rival any private condominiums estates if not for the stigma of them being built by HDB for public housing and the lack of a gated entrance with a security post, the lack of a swimming pool, the lack of a club house and/or the lack of a tennis court.

    For those interested in the truth, do visit HDB’s website and check out the past sales launches of our public housing estates at to see how far off this article is and what HDB estates look like. And if “Anonymous” can be wrong and/or deliberately lied about something as simple as Singapore’s public housing where information about it is freely available on the internet, just imagine how far off he or she is about all the unsubstantiated allegations made in this article and what lies he or she spun just to run down Singapore and its citizens.

    The façade of HDB (Housing Development Board) apartment blocks are repainted every 5 to 7 years, and our Government/HDB renews these HDB estates on a regular basis through upgrading exercises or SERS (Selective Enbloc Redevelopment Scheme). In upgrading exercises, the Government/HDB improves the estates by building new amenities such as new shopping malls so that its citizens do not have to travel to Orchard Road just to get a spot of decent retail therapy, building of new lift shafts in the older HDB blocks so that lifts stop at every floor instead of selected pre-designated floors, building of common multi-purpose halls or areas, building/refurbishing of playgrounds, building of air-conditioned bus terminus/interchanges so that its citizens can escape the relentless heat and humidity of the tropics while waiting for the buses, landscaping of the common areas, etc…

    In SERS exercises, selected HDB apartment blocks are chosen for estate renewal, owners of HDB flats will be compensated for their existing flats at market prices and are given the first bite at selecting a BRAND new flat at SUBSIDIZED prices which will be built in the same neighborhood and ready for occupation in a few years’ time. Naturally, such blocks may not enjoy any major upgrading and/or repainting if their blocks have been just upgraded/repainted a few years ago while waiting for their new flats to be ready. They may look a bit run down but it’s really harsh to label such blocks as ghettos because the number of blocks involved in any SERS programs have never exceed 15, it’s usually between 3 to 8 blocks of flats.

    As the saying goes “ birds of a feather flock together”, thus, for you to have encountered truckloads of so-called “uncouth and backward” people in Singapore, you probably are uncouth and backward to some extent. With almost 40% of Singapore’s population made up of foreigners, what makes you think that the “uncouth and backward” behaviors exhibited belong to true blue Singaporeans? It could easily be anyone such as the likes of you, the very ones you described in your 18th paragraph:
    “It very much feels like they just bused in a bunch of people from an uncivilized third world country and turned them loose in a big city.” [for ease of reference, it can be found in the paragraph next to the photo with the caption “Handicapped bathroom upstairs”]

    • Pained

      Your suburban areas outside of the CBD area are indeed third world ghettos. The only reason you believe the claim of your government that your stupid microstate is a first world city is because you have never lived in a REAL first world country. I know its hard for you to understand. Before I left Singapore, I used to think like you. My mind and eyes were only opened after I left.

  • J-F

    It’s funny as I always assumed Singapore was a super-orderly police state. So this article comes as a shock to me… I mean, isn’t possession of drugs punishable by death? And chewing gum illegal? I guess you really never know a country until you set a foot in it..

  • Phua Ahmed

    i am Phua Ahmed, CEO Phua Ahmed Micro Firm, i give out loans to individuals and company at 2% interest rate if you are in need of loan, get back to me via email:

    • Manuel Pfister

      Even though this is spam I’m posting it anyway just to show how retarded this is. This guy thinks he’s going to find people to rip off in the comment thread here. LOL!

      • Siti Noor

        LOL Now, this is funny…
        That said, given how retarded you think Singaporeans are, and that Singaporeans read your articles, he might’ve had a victim or two.

  • Bob W

    Here’s another mainstream regular news article that proves the point of this article…

  • Demetrios

    It speaks volume about this country that there is something called the National Kindness Movement, which promotes gracious behaviour (read normal, civilized human behaviour) towards others. Straits Times even ran an article at the end of last year about the so-called Gracious Indexness, saying that it had fallen to an all-time low. What kind of people need a movement to instruct them on how to act courteously towards others?!?!?! Maybe people who spend literally 5 to 6 hours of their day, perhaps more, staring into a smartphone…and not for any productive purpose either. In which other countries on earth is it normal to see people walking down a street or eating a meal with their eyes glued on a small screen the entire time? I don’t think it’s a stretch to label this breed of ‘Ugly Singaporeans’ as sociopathic. And it seems as if it’s the obnoxious ones, and not the decent ones (and there are many), who are trying their hardest now to survive and multiply. LKY’s Darwinist vision isn’t working out very well…sadly. I don’t know what has to be done to save the moral fiber of this country, which is fast disintegrating. I’ll spare a thought for the local Malays though, who from my experience living here have generally been some of the most polite and well-spoken people I’ve encountered, ironically since they carry the unfortunate tag of being the most disadvantaged and ‘backwards’ of the three major ethnic groups.

  • Ashwin

    Dear Charlie and Crew

    Our beloved Singapore Fagbagsters have proved themselves worthy here

    Look at all the retards queuing for a god damn plush toy!

    and here they are arguing with the manager of Mcdonalds because they were unable to get more plush toys due to the lack of stock

    God bless Singapore

  • Singapore Sucks

    If you would like a demonstration of what a bunch of pencil dick faggots Singaporeans are look no further than the Alan Shadrake case. Here is a man who’s only crime was to write about the barbaric, backwards, third world Singaporean legal system run by their dictatorship government and he was fined and jailed for it. Way to prove how backwards and retarded you are by jailing this man you fucking imbeciles. No first world country has such a corrupt, barbaric and backwards legal system. It’s like something straight out of the Arab World. Read about this guy in the PG version of this article here.

  • ryan

    Alright, so I’m a local born 16 y/o singaporean, I’ve lived here all my life, and yes this retardation like you said does happen quite often, and I’d say it’s because of education. Our education system is well and truly screwed up. First, at the tender age of 12, we sit for an exam called the PSLE, and then we get sorted into different schools according to our score. The problem here is, the system is extremely elitist, because if you get a good score (Say top 20% of the cohort) you get to go to the best schools in Singapore. There you get a proper education. However, apart from the top schools, the rest of the schools aren’t that good at all. So what you see here is a minority of the cohort getting the best education in the country (which isn’t that top class either way I would compare it to an average Scandinavian school where apparently education is really good). The other 80% of the cohort get sorted into schools that get progressively worse and worse until the bottom level.

    And I saw in your post you complained about the level of English in here which is yes quite frankly shite. Our education system has something to do with this. I’d say the students from the top 20-30% of schools can speak proper English like me (I’m from Raffles Institution which is one of the best schools in Singapore), however, as you go down the education ladder you get horrible standards of English much like the emails that you linked above.

    And the thing is, the people from the top 20/30%, like me, don’t work in the service industry. We work other jobs. The service industry belongs to Singaporeans who unfortunately cannot get other jobs elsewhere, from the bottom part of our education ladder. that is why you see this retardation phenomenon happening.

    It is kinda strange though, I went overseas to the US and UK for holidays and the service there was fantastic, like everyone in the service industry was intelligent and polite, compared to the service industry here.

    Anyway, it’s a sad fact that our education is so elitist and people who score low for their PSLE can’t get a good education, and it’s probably why you have the ‘retarded’ Singaporeans like you claim, the other class of highly educated Singaporeans (like me) who speak proper english etc. Yes I know I might offend people because of how elitist I sound, but such is the sad fact of life here in Singapore. You get to the top or you suffer.

    • Manuel Pfister

      Sounds like a reasonable and plausible explanation for a lot of it…

    • Mai

      Elitism at its finest. You are one example as to why SG’s education system is flawed. It is amazingly disgusting at how narrow-minded people from so-called elite schools churn out. In addition to that, you don’t need to be in the top 20-30% ranked school to speak proper English.
      People need to understand that in SG, English is a language of communication that is not always used at homes thus, there will definitely be people who are not as eloquent.
      Of course, with meritocracy( if it is even legit at all to begin with), those who are “better off” naturally get better education henceforth better job.
      It is easy to comment so much about the country and ten systems in place. Obviously we have a long way to go considering that we are a young nation and there are people who fail to see flaws in the system.

  • PM

    The comments especially when sweeping or broad brushed would apply to any country, not just Singapore. Americans speak bad English and spell badly….if anyone cares to admit.

    Regarding the experience with recruitment, welcome to the real world of the current attitudes across the world, It is the same in India, and many other more growing economies….nothing unique to Singapore. To call Singaporeans retarded, then let’s call everyone who practices such bad behaviours retarded. [every part of the world included.]

    The reality of doing business in another country [I have a business in Singapore and India and I am a Singaporean] is always about cost, culture, talents, and management acumen. I will never accuse Indians of retardation though the degree of frustration of doing business in India is multiple times more than in Singapore. India is a commonwealth nation and try expecting English out of everyone.

    As one commenter said, those who are not fluent in English will out talk you in another language. The fact that you failed to admire about Singapore is fine but your opinion and that of the select few who have expectations not met show more about your attitude than our nation’s.

    I have lived in the west and worked there, and now operating in India besides my home country….what i see are people who genuinely want to integrate and accept local practices or people who want to milk the system to the max and when that fails, the sour-grape syndrome shows.

    Your long article with so much vitriol speaks volumes about you too…

    Sincerely Singaporean, warts and all…

    • Manuel Pfister

      Americans are certainly pretty stupid but you cannot say with a straight face that they demonstrate anything like what’s been demonstrated in the comments here. Likewise the incompetence and retardation demonstrated by the job applicants is truly over the top. You are an apologist.

      • PM

        “You are an apologist.” You seem to like to label people….

        Sounds like you have appointed yourself the ‘Judge, Jury, and Executioner’ and I might add the ‘law’….. you set the standard? Your experience with hiring, like i said is the same experienced, if not worse, in India….nothing unique to Sg.

        • Manuel Pfister

          Of course it’s worse in India! Please post average salary figures in India versus in Singapore. Also India does not claim English as an official language. Even though you seem to be able to converse in English your comments are just as stupid as the rest.

          • Expat Boss

            Let me help him out because I’m sure he’s either too incompetent to do the research or will be too chicken shit to post the results. You heard it here first, from a Singaporean: In India the hiring process and related retardation is the same as in Singapore maybe even a little bit worse. So if that’s the kind of poor quality you can expect up front from both places let’s check some salary figures:

            Average salary in India: 5,729 INR ($124.55 SGD) per month

            Average salary in Singapore: $3,000 SGD per month.

            So in either country you can expect low quality, barely literate applicants, but in India it will cost you 4.2% of what it will cost you in Singapore. And let’s not forget the important distinction that Singapore claims English as an official Language while India does not. That’s a pretty sad commentary on the state of affairs in Singapore.

          • Dude

            Some of you are really stupid. English is not an official language of India? Please do a simple Google search and you’ll see that India DOES claim that its official languages are Hindi and ENGLISH. Mr. Pfister is as ignorant as any other typical American.

  • White guy

    I’m an FT living in Singapore for the last three years and I can say this: Singapore by and large is awesome for me – I get paid a shitload, everyone is about 3 years behind my industry so I’m a super star without trying, although I have few Singaporean friends (not for lack of trying) I have plenty of friends from neighboring countries, travel outside of Singapore is close, cheap and awesome. My career, should I ever choose to leave, is in great shape. I live in a ridiculous apartment filled with every stupid toy I can imagine and I have a pool that gets near year round sun.

    I agree with the locals, if you can’t handle the bullshit (which is present in every country, just in different forms) then go home. Simple lah.

    Get rich, get a tan, get laid, go home and continue life in a country that makes sense. Singapore isn’t reality.

    That’s my plan anyway.

  • IndonesianStudentInSingapore

    Oh, and I always thought to myself this: “Singapore is a country with good infrastructure, but low moral culture.”