Something doesn't quite add up here...

Tin Foil HatAbsolute lies and fabrications from the government (virtually all governments) and the mainstream media are the rule not the exception. These days if it comes from either of those sources you can pretty much bet your bottom dollar that it’s bullshit. If a representative of either of these organizations actually provides some truthful information it’s probably by accident. CNN, MSNBC, The Fed, The Beaurau of Labor Statistics, the POTUS himself – all bullshit. On that note, Charlie came across this short five minute video that I thought was too good not to post. Check it out. And by the way this guy Corbett (not to be confused with Colbert), does some great real reporting on all sorts of topics over at his website The Corbett Report.

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23 comments to Something doesn’t quite add up here…

  • Clifton Santiago

    Wait, don’t tell me, Obama’s birth certificate is fake too right? Because he’s an EVIL FOREIGNER COMMIE SOCIALIST BLACK PERSON! I read your site all the time, but all this right-wing foaming-at-the-mouth-rants lately are getting very tiresome. I thought you guys were cool.

    • If you really read our site all the time you would have noticed that we are neither “right wing” or “left wing”. That meme is just a little show they put on for us to make us think we have a choice. Our site is about thinking critically and making your own decisions about the world. Sorry if one of your sacred cows got trampled on.

      I voted for Obama. I gave money to his campaign. Then he proved for once and for all that there is no difference between “right” and “left” by giving money to the banksters, giving money to the sick caresters, expanding war, and trampling on civil liberties. I no longer support him. I imagine now that you would accuse me of being a racist. I thought you were cool, dude.

      • Charlie beat me to the punch and Obama’s birth certificate is fake for the record and it’s been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt – to be fair the electronic pdf pretending to be a digital image of his birth certificate – nobody has seen his actual birth certificate. Why don’t you do some research retard.

        • Clifton Santiago

          I don’t think I’m the first to say, people come here for the insightful travel information and advice, not political commentary. But go ahead, alienate your readership.

          • Readership is going up and up. Our goal is to educate and inform and with the world being such a dangerous and combustible place right now the single dude needs to prepare.

          • Thanks for your unsolicited marketing advice. Readership has been growing steadily pretty much since day one. And this really isn’t “political commentary” – it’s more like a wake up call to get the fuck out and travel permanently. That obviously went over your head though.

    • And by the way moron, what does this have to do with “right wing” or “Obama” anyway? Last I checked 9/11 and the aftermath from it happened on Bush’s watch.

  • Buckaroo Banzai

    There are a meaningful fraction of people on the planet– possibly as high as 80%– who will believe literally anything that someone in authority (or even only under the color of authority) tells them.

    They are called SHEEPLE.

    This has been a fundamental part of human nature for at least 10,000 years. We know this because we know that the Sumerian word for “People”, is Lu Lu, which transliterated is “Sheep Sheep” (i.e., sheep plural).

    The ability to think critically, by applying logic to the rather limited products of human observation, while simultaneously factoring in a knowledge of human nature, is shockingly and disturbingly rare. But then again, when I put it like that, I guess it really is a lot easier to believe someone else, than actually use your brain the way God meant us to.

  • Daniel

    This is an important subject because so much hinges on 911. The un”patriot act”, 2 major wars, genital grabbing TSA, and general stripping of the Constitution. If we don’t learn from this, then be sure it will happen again. In fact, it looks like another false flag is about to happen at the Olympic stadium and Big Ben to justify a war with Iran and mask the fraud of LIBOR and the missing gold from the LBMA. Just wait and see.
    The rabbit hole does go deep and there is a rabbit. It’s called Lucifer worshipping secret societies intent on achieving world domination. To achieve this end, a world government is needed. And you sure can’t have American sovereignty and freedoms coexist with a New World Order. Besides, scripture prophesizes the eventual world control by the anti-christ, so it all makes perfect sense.
    In regards to 911, do you think any flying object can get anywhere near the pentagon without radar detecting it?? Of course not. Cheney said to “stand down” and let the “plane” hit the pentagon. The smoking gun is in this 2 minute video of Mineta, a man that was next to Cheney in the pentagon that heard him say “stand down” and let the plane hit. Guess what got destroyed?? Archives relating to budget fraud, which Rumsfeld had declared 2.3 trillion was “unaccounted for” just the day before.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5h1RoATAd0
    The other smoking gun is the WTC 7. It collapsed exactly as the Twin Towers, but no plane. It looks exactly like a demolition. If buildings collapsed so perfectly, there would be no need for engineers to do precision demolitions. Just pour rocket fuel at the top, light it, and wait for the building to collapse at the speed of gravity perfectly on its on own footprint. Yeah right.

    • The other smoking gun is the WTC 7. It collapsed exactly as the Twin Towers, but no plane. It looks exactly like a demolition. If buildings collapsed so perfectly, there would be no need for engineers to do precision demolitions. Just pour rocket fuel at the top, light it, and wait for the building to collapse at the speed of gravity perfectly on its on own footprint. Yeah right.

      Yes this is what I’m talking about.

  • M

    I don’t want to get into a debate about every aspect of the video, but let’s take the two questions you ask and look at them objectively:

    A 757 is filled with thousands of pounds of jet fuel that burns at extremely high temperatures. That’s why most jet aircraft crashes you see are smoking holes of scorched, twisted and melted metals. Impact with the ground at a high rate of speed doesn’t cause the fire, it’s the tons of jet fuel that ignites a split second afterwards that creates the charred mess. So I don’t buy the theory that the fire wasn’t hot enough to weaken the structural steel. It was. Steel is made from molten metal, so it certainly will weaken try to return to a molten state if the temperature are high enough. Note that I didn’t say was enough to melt it, just weaken it. The weight of the upper floors of the buildings did the rest.

    But let’s step back from that thought for a moment and ask ourselves why would a government want to do this? Why would it be an inside job? If it was to create a war in Iraq, surely there are easier and less riskier ways to instigate that. Look at the Gulf of Tonkin incident to see how easy it is for the US to get wrapped up in a bloody war, or how easily we got sucked into Kosovo or Libya. Why go to all the trouble of hatching a wild and complicated terrorist plot involving hijacked jets, jihad terrorists, and potentially thousands of co-conspirators? It’s simply too messy. Too many loose ends that would be beyond the conspirator’s control.

    As for the pentagon, a simple internet search will show images of aircraft wreckage littered across the the crash site. If it wasn’t an aircraft that hit the Pentagon, then what was it? A cruise missile? A bunker-buster bomb? Then where did the bits of twisted aluminum scattered across the Pentagon lawn come from?

    If we continue on that thread, then who shot/launched the weapon? If it was the military there would have been any number of people involved in the planning and execution of such an attach. A Tomahawk cruise missile doesn’t just jump off the rails and fly to a target without a huge amount of planning before firing. Plus a Tomahawk only has a 500lb warhead, which is not enough to do the damage shown in the photos . A bunker-buster bomb might have the power to do the damage, but it is dropped out of a C-130 and requires specific targeting information, as well as an airborne launch platform and coordination from an number of areas in order to hit its target. No matter what they show in the latest Hollywood blockbuster, these things just don’t fall of the plane and by magic land on the target..

    Which all goes back to my original premise. If it was the military, then someone would have talked. Period. I can’t imagine any military office in good conscious launching a weapon in anger on American soil, particularly against his/her colleagues in the Pentagon. We were all trained about what is and what is not a lawful order in the military, and I can’t imagine a scenario where a military unit would be ordered to execute such an attack and would be willing to carry it out.

    And if it wasn’t the military, then it would have had to be something like out of a James Bond movie from the 60′s where the crazy, evil billionaire launches an attack against the world from his headquarters on a secret island somewhere to hold it ransom . Which come to think of it, eerily resembles George Soros… Hey, where’s 007 when you need him?

    M

    • M,

      Forget the twin towers. The real smoking gun is the Pentagon. Why is there a big hole for the fuselage of the airplane – the weakest and least dense part but there is no discernible damage from the engines, the heaviest, most dense and strongest parts of the airplane? Agreed that many conspiracy theories also seem implausible but that doesn’t magically make the evidence consistent with the official story either.

      Why did building 7 collapse?

      Why did the buildings collapse at nearly free fall speed?

      Why didn’t the buildings collapse asymmetrically because the damage was asymmetrical?

      How did the hijacker pilot that was so retarded he could barely fly a Cessna make the extremely complex and difficult maneuver necessary to hit the pentagon?

      Why did passports from the hijackers end up on the ground undamaged?

      Why were the cars on the highway next to the pentagon not showing significant signs of damage and disturbance from the jet blast from the plane flying directly over them at full speed?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFP4xl0V0mk (if you’re impatient skip to 0.50)

      Any one of my questions above should raise eyebrows, taken all together it makes the official story wholly implausible. Then there are the 100s of other problems with the narrative that were not included in my 2 minute blog comment. Getting struck by lightning and winning the lottery on the same day is more likely than the official 911 story.

      If you want something real, documentable and substantive read the book Classified Woman by Sibel Edmonds. She was working for the FBI on the 911 case as a Turkish and Farsi translator. Just see what she has to say.

      Etc., etc., etc., etc.

      Come on man you’re smarter than this.

      • M

        I’d really rather be discussing traveling to foreign lands and meeting beautiful women so this is the last comment I’ll make on this topic. As I said before, I don’t want to go over every point, but I can address the Youtube video right away simply from my experience.

        I was a Navy pilot on aircraft carriers so I have worked closely around jet aircraft. The Youtube link is accurate. A jet engine can knock things down and send them tumbling. However, a couple of points you need to be aware of when viewing the video. First, the jet engine in the video is at max power. Engines at idle don’t have that kind of thrust. If they did you’d see tow tractors and baggage handlers being launched airborne every time an airliner taxis past a gate. The engines on the jet that flew into the Pentagon were most likely at idle because the plane was in a descent and the pilot needed to have a slow aircraft to ensure he hit what he was aiming for. If you look closely at the video the truck is nothing but an empty shell. The engine and transmission were removed. Therefore it has a lot of surface area and very little weight. That’s also why it went flying.

        Exhaust blows straight back, not back and down. The jet that hit the Pentagon was flying downward and descending (nose pointing down, tail pointing up), so the exhaust was pointing towards the sky and not towards the cars.

        But rather than debate points I’d simply like someone who believes this was some huge conspiracy to convincingly answer three questions for me. Simply put: why, who, and how? I think I’m a pretty rational guy, so each time someone throws up these statements about a conspiracy I find myself returning to those three basic questions.

        If it was a plot what was it’s objective? What was the desired outcome? What is the reason for duping the world into thinking that fanatical Islamist had attacked the US? To what purpose? Why?

        Second, if you can establish a Why, then you have to ask Who? Just saying it was the “Government” is not an answer. The Government is a huge entity. Was it the military, the CIA, the NSA, CONTROL, the Men in Black? Who did this?

        And if you can establish the Why and the Who now you have to address the details of the operation. How to coordinate the actions of potentially thousands of actors so that the world believes it was a terrorist attack and not an “inside job”? If it was a conspiracy it would have had to been very complicated. This wasn’t a Hollywood movie or a PS3 game. It was real life and thousands of people saw these airplanes fly into the buildings. And how to ensure that almost 11 years on not a single person involved in an operation that killed thousands of innocents and caused billions of damage has talked. How does an organization carry out something to complex, and then how does it buy that kind of lasting silence?

        And finally, if it was a conspiracy was the 9-11 operation really the most efficient way to achieve what you wanted to accomplish? The American people have been led astray by the government based on far less evidence than what occurred on 9-11. Why orchestrate something so public, so complex, and with so many loose ends?

        It doesn’t make and sense to me. I’m sorry but I simply can’t get there from here.

        And that’s my rational dude view of all of this. As I said, I’d rather spend my time talking about travel, whiskey and women rather than trying to connect dots that just don’t connect. But maybe that’s just me….

        M

        • I was a Navy pilot on aircraft carriers so I have worked closely around jet aircraft. The Youtube link is accurate. A jet engine can knock things down and send them tumbling. However, a couple of points you need to be aware of when viewing the video. First, the jet engine in the video is at max power. Engines at idle don’t have that kind of thrust. If they did you’d see tow tractors and baggage handlers being launched airborne every time an airliner taxis past a gate. The engines on the jet that flew into the Pentagon were most likely at idle because the plane was in a descent and the pilot needed to have a slow aircraft to ensure he hit what he was aiming for. If you look closely at the video the truck is nothing but an empty shell. The engine and transmission were removed. Therefore it has a lot of surface area and very little weight. That’s also why it went flying.

          When the plane hit the pentagon it was supposedly operating at or even a little above it’s maximum design speed. Thus those engines were not likely idling. It also supposedly was just a few meters off the ground as it flew over that highway and the lawn. I would expect to see a lot of damage. If you watched the flight path I have trouble seeing how anybody can conclude that the exhausts from the engine would have been pointing upward.

          Anyway what about the lack of damage from the engines to the building? Honestly how does that happen? I have never read a credible explanation for what happened to those engines. Two 3,000-4,000 kilogram engines measuring 10 feet in length and 7 feet in diameter.

          Concluding that the official story is inconsistent with reality does not require that one has all the answers. If I come home and find my car crashed with pieces of another vehicle all around it I can easily conclude that the damage was not caused by a bazooka. I don’t need to know the license plate and the identity of the driver to draw some logical conclusions about what did and did not destroy my car.

          The Pentagon is like that – nothing is consistent with the official story there – NOTHING.

          I don’t deny that two planes hit the twin towers – of course they did. Without considering WTC 7 you can kind of make that story sound plausible to those that don’t know much about physics. I would even concede that hell maybe it did happen that way however improbably just for those two buildings. I do not agree for WTC 7 and The Pentagon.

          Why don’t they just release some real video of the crash at the Pentagon then? The Pentagon is probably has more cameras on it than any other building in the world? If there is nothing to hide why not just show it? Kind of reminds me of Obama’s phony birth certificate – now we know why there was so much effort to keep it under wraps – cause it’s fake!

          The last thing I would leave you with is that war is America’s biggest business – therefore the motivation is obvious. Many people are getting very rich off Iraq and Afghanistan. And since when was the government ever good at doing things “efficiently”?

        • I don’t have all the answers, but 9-11 changed the entire world. Look at who profited from the event and you will start to see who was behind it.

  • M

    Ummm….Yeah…well….where to begin with this…?

    I was expecting something more from the video…First, this guy’s slick little piece commits the very sin that I despise the mainstream media of doing, which is to put forth something as a truth without offering any references to support it. It’s fast, flashy and tries to lure you into thinking he speaks with authority, but I have to say he lost me at the start because of all of his assertions without providing any proof.

    Second, having been a military pilot myself and knowing a little something about our continental defense posture both before and after 9-11, his credibility was shot to Hell at about 0:38 into the video with his statements about our’s being “the most heavily defended airspace in the world”. Uh? Says who? I’d wager that Syria, Iran, North Korea, Russia or a dozen other countries have better defended airspace than the US, even to this day. Seriously, between the fall of the Berlin wall and 9-11 what nation had the ability of launching surprise long-range conventional air attacks against the US? None, nil, nada, zero, zilch. Hence our relaxed air defense posture before 9-11.

    So for me that’s where this video came apart. After that point it was all noise, flashy pictures and half truths. I could go into more about the video, but what’s the point? People will believe what they want to believe despite the facts.

    I have to tell you that I’m not a conspiracy theorists. Oh, don’t get me wrong, I don’t trust the government for a minute, but having been in the military I do have an unswerving faith in the ability of my fellow Americans to NOT keep a secret – especially of something this spectacular. So given the complexity of any sort of operation that would have had to have been organized to pull off an event such as 9-11 I am certain someone, somewhere would have blown the whistle by now. So for that reason alone I don’t even waste my time with this dribble.

    To answer Charlie’s question above…The rabbit hole will go as deep as you want to dig it, but you’ll ever find the rabbit because there isn’t one.

    M

    • I of course don’t think this video is convincing about anything, other than the need to dig a little deeper. What do you say to the various things that don’t add up, like the total lack of airplane wreckage recovered from the Pentagon, and the smouldering, black smoke fire that was able to melt steel and cause the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd ever instances of steel framed skyscrapers falling all the way down due to fire? etc, etc etc?

      I’m no conspiracy guy either, but it seems like the Govt story has a lot of flaws for those willing to do an hour’s research.

    • M,

      Of course he can’t put all the supporting evidence in a video that short but after having read about this thing extensively since it happened I have to say most of those things are documentable. I remember Charlie messaging me and saying “I no longer believe the official story about 911.” and I said “Oh, why?” at which point he sent me the video link. As soon as I saw the length I thought oh that must be just the tip of the ice berg but after watching it I remember thinking “Wow it would have taken me about two days to explain all that shit – how did he get it into a 5 minute video?”

  • The one realization that has most improved my mental health, and that I only stumbled over a few short years ago, is (and feel free to laugh because I deserve it):

    1: I am not the smartest person in the world.
    2: There are people who are much much smarter than me, and also much more ruthless.

    This doesn’t therefore prove that I know what 9-11 really was, but what I do know is that there are smarter, more cunning, and better-funded psychopaths at work in this world than I will ever be able to even imagine.

    I have to share a planet with these people, I can’t do anything about that, but at the very least I can resolve not to play their games, or hitch myself to their wagon.

  • jon bon van dame

    Greatest video ever! Thank you for sharing this

  • I wonder how deep this rabbit hole goes.

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